New Money, Old Rules: The Gilded Age Podcast (Episode 302)
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Welcome to New Money, Old Rules: The Gilded Age Podcast! Join Caroline and Mike each week as they discuss HBO’s period drama, The Gilded Age!
This week on New Money, Old Rules: The Gilded Age Podcast, Caroline and Mike discuss Episode 2 of Season 3 of The Gilded Age, “What the Papers Say”!
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“String Quartet No. 12 in F Major, “American”, Op. 96: IV” by Antonín Dvořák.
New Money, Old Rules: The Gilded Age Podcast is a Pod Clubhouse original production, recorded and produced at Pod Clubhouse studios. This episode was edited by Caroline Daley and assembled by Michael Caputo.
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Hi! I love the podcast and totally agree with most of your comments on S3 Episode 2! But I did have a few reactions.
Re: Armstrong, I could totally believe her as a temperance person because of the rough family situation we saw in previous seasons. We didn’t get a ton of detail as to why her mom was so sick and bedridden, but given her class I readily believe she could have had a father who was an alcoholic or even just saw the negative effects of alcoholism in her neighborhood. As…imperfect…as the temperance movement was, it was responding to a LOT of social ills — including domestic violence, working men wasting their paychecks leaving nothing for their families, and STIs. I could easily believe some of those impacting Armstrong’s world.
With John Adams rescuing Oscar, I personally wasn’t swooning with emotion because I remember all too well Oscar running to John in anguish the day he lost his money, and John saying calmly “you’ll figure out how to get through” without offering to do anything to help. John just isn’t my favorite person after that scene. Though, still, obviously nice for Oscar to be inching out of depression.
And in the discussion over whether George should bear some of the responsibility for not talking to Bertha preemptively about Gladys’ dowry — I’m with Mike. There may have been a general conversation off-screen about what kind of dowry they were planning for her, but more to the point, George hasn’t seen any serious contenders for Gladys’ hand yet. Yes, there was Oscar and the kid in Season 2 whose name I entirely forget, but no one that had really been really a viable option before such that they would NEED to have conversations about specifics. Also, I didn’t read George’s “this is news to me” line to Gladys at the end of the episode as him having totally checked out or willfully ignored Bertha’s scheming, but rather that George didn’t realize her plans had progressed so far. George certainly knows Bertha WANTS the Duke for her daughter, but from George’s perspective I think he hasn’t seen the Duke do any courting of his daughter, dancing with her at balls or writing her letters from England, such that George would imagine a real attachment. My understanding is, families wouldn’t usually talk about dowry negotiations until a proposal had been made and accepted. The man should bring evidence of his financial situation and plans for supporting the daughter when he asked her father’s permission (as Oscar memorably tried to do with George), but it would be highly presumptuous to talk dowry figures unless an engagement was happening. Bringing the lawyer was a this-engagement-is-fully-in-motion move. THAT’s what I hear George saying was news to him.